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Old 08-13-2022, 07:54 PM   #6828
Mull
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Originally Posted by Itse View Post
No, you don't. There was no "large pro-Russian population" in Ukraine, which is one of the reasons why the initial attack was such a complete failure. Maybe in 2014 this might have been the case, back when the legitimacy of the Kiev government was genuinely under question, but since then Russia has beem very successful in making clear to Ukrainians that even a crappy Kiev government is better than anything Moscow does.

The biggest city in South Eastern Ukraine is (was?) Mariupol and they certainly didn't make Russians feel welcome.

Oh I don’t agree with the matter of fact of this from my deep understand of Ukraine history … I have taken an interest in recently ha (ie I don’t have a deep understanding)

Anyway when mayors of major cities like Odessa and smaller places like Kherson were pro Russian before Feb 2022 (or at least the internet told me that) I think there was a lot more pro Russian views in Ukraine post 2014 then you think
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