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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

This is incorrect:


16 of 32 teams make the playoffs as of last season, so exactly half. No need to round. Before last season, 16 out of 31 teams made it - so more than half the teams made the playoffs. Before Vegas, it was 16 out of 30.


As well, let's make the argument even more correct. In the west right now, how many teams are competing for a playoff spot? Do you include the obvious rebuilding teams Arizona and Chicago? What about Seattle?



So taking the above, do you still feel that the Flames have been "above average"? I surely don't.


Also, by your logic, Treliving got hired and took over one of the worst rosters in the NHL. However, Gaudreau, Monahan, Brodie, Giordano, etc., got them to the 2nd round - so above average by your standards, no? That was the first season for Treliving. If the roster was so bad, how is this explained?


I think there are posters here who simply want blood. I don't think these posters should be taken seriously. Likewise, there are posters who come in with a bunch of insults whenever someone makes an argument for change - ignore these posters as well as I also think they are a complete waste of time engaging with.


The truth is somewhere in the middle. Treliving is not beyond reproach as this team has NOT been a successful playoff team by any definition. They have not been a regular playoff team, they have not gotten out of the 1st round regularly, and they have not won more than a single game in the 2nd round in the entirety of Treliving's tenure. I think his job security SHOULD start being questioned.


Treliving has also done lots of great things too. He has been far from a terrible GM - some people have short memories or don't look around the league at how other teams are being managed, and they are over-eager with their blood lust. Treliving has had a number of 'out of the ball park' successes under his tenure too. That's what makes the argument and argument.



Lots of strawmen arguments on both sides that I don't pay attention to. Lots of good discussion in the middle I think.

I don’t want blood, I want positive change. And if Brad Treliving is the right guy for the job, then I think we will see it. And if not, then we’ll just see what happens next off season.

I just want to see my team succeed because I ####ing love Calgary and I love my flames.