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Originally Posted by fleury
I don’t mind dealing Groshan’s and again do trust managements eye for talent but even internally if they didn’t feel too high on him, they seem to give up a lot in these deadline deals. Personally I’m starting to feel Atkins isn’t the best negotiator. Last year when they gave up that much prospect capital for Berrios, I was pretty angry. Certainly it’s not that much but again, they’re not elite bullpen guys and would have hoped a solid project like Groshans would go to a team big on him who wouldn’t mind dealing equally. But it sounds like Miami did well.
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I mean this with respect, I think you overrate our prospects based on the fact you know their names.
Groshans has done nothing in the minors to show he is even close to a major leaguer.
He can't field particularly well, and has hit 15 hrs in 1000 AB's in the minors. His career slugging is .400
This year, he has 1 HR and a .296 slugging with a ground ball rate of almost 50%. These are comically horrible numbers.
I think the Jays are actually much better and smarter at identifying players they think have a unfixable flaw and dealing while they still have some hype. This is what the Yankees did well for years. Every year they would have a new hyped prospect to deal and they never turned into anything
Austin Martin is another good example. He's now in his 3rd year in the minors and still can't hit for power.
He's hitting .249 with a .313 Slugging and 92 wRC+, and isnt good at D
After this year I doubt he is even a top 100 prospect.
If you can't play D and can't hit for power there arent a lot of long term options. The Jays seem to be trading these type of players away before their value decreases