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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
Reread what it says. It's the opposite. In going on LTIR they are placed on IR.
The CBA is clear that once on LTIR a player can only be removed once the team makes room. There is no use of "immediately." In fact they are crystal clear that a player is to remain on LTIR if the team does not have room. It didn't contemplate using LTIR as a way to Robida Island players but the teams began doing so and they've yet to act on it. You're also using the word veto where there is none in the CBA. A signature is not a veto. An injured player not signing the document would be going against the CBA, not granting him permission to avoid the CBA's rules.
But none of that matters because Monahan is on the injury reserve.
You've made a bunch of interpretations that go against the CBA. I agree that a grievance would likely result in the player's favour but you can't just say it would.
So with respect to Monahan, unless he is cleared by the physician, he is eligible to be placed on the IR by the team because he was injured at the end of last season. That's the Flames choice.
If he is expected to miss 10 games, he can be placed on LTIR. That's the Flames choice.
Once he is able to come back (if 10 games has passed), the only way to activate him is to make room. Otherwise the player cannot be activated. There has yet to be a determination made if the player is healthy and wants to play what happens if the team refuses to make room. The only thing the CBA says is the player is to remain on LTIR, nothing else. Everything else is speculation.
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It is not the Flames choice to put him on the IR because in order for the player to be placed on the IR the form must be signed by the team, the player and the physician. If Monahan does not sign then it is no dice. But at least we agree that a bona Fide long term injury requires a player to be on the IR, so that is progress.
But if a player did not sign the IR form they would not be eligible for the IR, full stop, which would mean they are not eligible for the LTIR. Same way that if a physician did not sign the form the player would not be eligible. The part of the CBA that you quote in your own post uses the word
shall. That word means that it is a requirement for those 3 signatures to be on the document in order to place a player on the IR. That means that all 3 signatories can stop, or veto, any placement of a player on the IR.