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Originally Posted by FlameOn
Time needs to scale with damage caused, and it should be converted to hard labour, forced public service or something similar so the time isn't just a cake walk for repeat offenders. The steep punishments seem to work in other parts of the world.
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lol, there's nothing you can get out of somebody who has nothing. It'd make you feel better to have some guy on the other side of 50 shoveling ditches as penance? Chop off his hands, maybe? IDK, I don't see that stopping some bum with mental health and substance abuse issues from misbehaving. Like, isn't that obviously completely pointless?
Anybody want to consider my warehousing-them-in-Airdrie strategy again? Like, how much are these guys costing us a month in Calgary? Tucking them away in Airdrie with three squares a day, some board games and a pen to play in seems like a win-win. You can have the "I'm here to get fataed up and die" warehouse including free drugs. You can have the "I'm sick and tired of living like a POS and would like to get help warehouse" - that would come with increased privileges tied to therapy, health and vocational progress. Then finally you could have the re-integration warehouse, which is really just an apartment-style building where we get them back on their feet and keep them pointed in the right direction. Fata up? Back to square one.
I really don't see how punishing a bum for smashing windows helps anything. Homeless and drugged out people can't navigate the square world most of us inhabit. We can't let them crash at the Mustard Seed for the night and expect that to go anywhere to solving any problems other than keeping a guy warm for one night. The problems are longer term and need better solutions.
Start treating them like children. Send them to their room (our warehouse) until they can calm themselves down (get clean/therapy) and turn over a new page.
Hate the plan if you want, but whatever the fata it is we're doing now across the western world is doing jack ####. Time for some tough love.