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Originally Posted by Krovikan
We are clearly not getting the opening of this conversation, there is no way the conversation started with "did you go to the police" or there was another. If the lawyer didn't share it, this is very suspicious activity on the players behalf. If it's the media, we have some really ####ty, dangerous, and frankly criminal reporting.
If the conversation did start this way, consent wasn't there the night before.
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I would have thought so, too, but the TSN article provides times of each message:
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According to text messages provided by Davidson, the woman and one of the hockey players exchanged text messages on June 20, 2018.
“Did u go to the police after Sunday?” the player wrote at 11:26 a.m.
“I talked to my mom about it and she called I think but I told her not to. I don’t want anything bad to come of it so I told her to stop,” the woman wrote at 11:53 a.m.
“You said you were having fun??” the player wrote at 11:55 a.m.
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It's certainly possible that there was previous back/forth, but the nearly 30 minute gap is a bit odd and seems less likely to happen in the middle of a conversation than her simply not immediately seeing the message for a bit as the messages seem to flow steadily after that.
It's possible the police contacted John Doe which prompted his message. Or like you say, the lawyers may/may not have shared any earlier messages.
I'd also speculate that John Doe seemed anxious and gaslighty...if she went radio silent for so long in the middle of an ongoing convo I think he'd be more likely to give some follow ups to assure her and try to coax a response...but again totally speculating (and it might be similarly odd to let the first message stand without another nudge if it was indeed the first message, but we might be dealing with a master gaslighter here).
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If consent was there (which based on the release of these texts, I doubt consent was there), and the conversation was much more then reported. And the mother was the one putting pressure on consent not being there then went to the police, the mother should be in legal trouble. Again if this was the entire conversation, or the lawyers failed to disclose to the media all texts, consent was probably not there.
I could also see this being one lawyer releasing what they have, and the conversation did start there after another conversation with another player that has more information.
This release raises more questions than it answers.
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Huh? (to the bolded)