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Originally Posted by Murph
Name them.
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ppg - gp - gpg over the last 4 years*
1.43 - 197 - 0.50 Nikita Kucherov
1.24 - 285 - 0.41 Patrick Kane
1.06 - 271 - 0.64 Alex Ovechkin
1.18 - 256 - 0.57 David Pastrnak
1.17 - 136 - 0.54 Kirill Kaprizov
1.21 - 286 - 0.36 Jonathan Huberdeau
1.27 - 265 - 0.37 Artemi Panarin
1.11 - 290 - 0.39 Johnny Gaudreau
1.21 - 268 - 0.36 Mitchell Marner
1.18 - 243 - 0.48 Mikko Rantanen
1.24 - 272 - 0.46 Brad Marchand**
0.97 - 234 - 0.36 Mark Stone**
0.98 - 288 - 0.50 Kyle Connor
0.99 - 287 - 0.40 Matthew Tkachuk
0.99 - 232 - 0.45 Gabriel Landeskog
1.03 - 253 - 0.49 Jake Guentzel
0.98 - 268 - 0.28 Blake Wheeler
0.98 - 128 - 0.45 Jason Robertson
0.94 - 185 - 0.40 Vladimir Tarasenko
0.91 - 235 - 0.44 Filip Forsberg
0.89 - 286 - 0.46 Alex DeBrincat
I think you can make an argument that he's 11th, but I'm not sure who you're deleting from that top 10?
Marchand probably won't get back to his previous form, but I wouldn't write off Stone. Landeskog showed in those playoffs that he gets very underrated. There are a lot of strong arguments for Kyle Connor, too.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I believe Tkachuk is the only one on this list who has spent less than 2/4 seasons on the top line for his team.
He’s right there despite playing his first two seasons with Backlund, Frolik, Bennett, and Mangiapane. And most of his third season with Dube and Mangiapane on the other side of Lindholm or Backlund and Mangiapane.
So, in short, he’s probably an easy top 10 given his production under the circumstances, which doesn’t even factor in the defensive side of his game.
And those are just the facts. Though I’m sure some goofball calls it “confirmation bias” lol.
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Huberdeau = line 2 for the last two years.
Kyle Connor - lead WPG F's in TOI this year, but played mostly with Dubois and Svechnikov/Perfetti...and also killed penalties.
You have to make the same excuses/arguments in good faith across the board. Tkachuk gets a lot less TOI than most of these guys...but that's been true across three coaches, including the current HOFer...maybe it is actually just a fair criticism that you can't rely on Tkachuk to excel playing ~22 mins a night?
Tkachuk being Top 15 isn't an insult...sooner or later he'll hopefully improve his consistency (like the rest of the Flames) and climb the ranks as guys like Ovi and Kane inevitably decline. Pasta/KK/MM/Rantanen/Connor are all within a year or so of his age, though, and younger guys are always coming up.