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Old 07-02-2022, 11:10 PM   #36
Macho0978
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Originally Posted by boogerz View Post
Tkachuk's contract is somewhat irrelevant, as he's probably leaving as soon as he hits UFA and won't be here long-term regardless of whatever the Flames do.

Given the Flames' depth upfront this season, Johnny is still PPG (at minimum) if Sutter splits up that line. For reference:

He put up 99 points with Monahan and Ferland.
He put up 84 points with Monahan and Hudler
He put up what would have been 69 points over a full-season hard carrying Monahan's corpse and a NHL tweener like Brett Ritchie.

It's pretty conclusive that Johnny is PPG with decent linemates and the best winger in the league with good linemates.

Any UFA-eligible player of that quality is going to cost ~$10-11M long-term. As long as Johnny doesn't suffer a major injury, he should age as well someone like Denis Savard, who was still pretty good at being evasive in his mid-30s in a tougher era for small guys and after losing a good amount of his speed.
Pretty sure the 99 points was with Monahan and Lindholm not Ferland. Monahan before injuries was a good player and Lindholm was a very underrated player when the Flames picked him up.

Tkachuk also was on that PP and was over a PPG.

I get that Gaudreau carries the offence, but people are blind if they don't think Tkachuk contributes to Johnny's success. It wasn't long ago a majority of Flames fans were annointing Tkachuk as they best player on the team and the next captain. Johnny has a huge year and everyone is on the band wagon that he's as good as it gets and Tkachuk is just a mooch now.

Let's not forget Lindholm too as he contributes a ton to both their success as well.

Once again, I'm ok to trade Tkachuk but I think people are dead wrong if they think Tkachuk would sign for 8 years along side Johnny for $1.5 to $2 mil less than Johnny. If he's getting that much less it's because he's setting up for next contract on a short term deal.
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