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Originally Posted by GioforPM
No I’m asking you where the Makar is at 26 in this draft, because that’s what you are implying.
What trade of the 26th range pick are you talking about and what draft? These are kind of important details. Do you really covet the players projected in the 26 range? Over a prove .75 PPG player?
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Hey there, please have another look at my posts and you'll see not only did I not say this, but I didn't imply it. What I said is we never had any chance in the playoffs (reference to Makar, compared to Tanev etc). I did not say that if our first round pick was available, we would then be immediately Stanley cup bound, nor did I imply this.
Case in point, Cale Makar. Generational player, best since Bobby Orr? Yes.
More valuable than McDavid? Yes.
Drafted first overall? no.
2nd? no
3rd? no.
Giving up draft picks is a poor strategy in almost all cases, and it's why you see the cup winners rarely do it.
With regards to exact picks etc on Toffoli, this is all freely available on the internet, as well as the trades the Flames made that year.
Any time the Flames have given up their first round pick you can go back and see regret in hindsight once that draft class is developed. Maybe the only exception was the acquisition of a young Hamilton.
Please don't take the very reasonable notion of keeping first round picks, and twist it into sounding unreasonable. You don't need a generational player for every first round pick for them to be of value. Sorry.
Look at how the cap is structured, for example. It is specifically structured to favor teams that develop prospects. So all the best teams do. That first round pick could become a star, but greater than 50 percent chance they at least are serviceable at the NHL level. At bare minimum market cap, allowing the team space for more expensive stars. No prospects, no cap room. That's how the cap is designed.
Younger players also are generally way more effective in the playoffs, and we're seeing a lot of that lately.
Bottom line do we really need to go on an expedition to determine whether first round picks help us?