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Originally Posted by Jay Random
It showed nothing of the kind.
If you want a true index of the value of cap dumps, look at some of the trades Arizona has made in the last year or two. It's much higher than that:
• 2nd and 7th to take on Gostisbehere
• 2nd in 2021, 2nd in 2022, and 3rd in 2023 to take on Ladd
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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
And Bishop+7th to Buffalo showed that it's easy to move cap if it doesn't come with term and money behind it.
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Think you missed the bolded part of the sentence?
Lucic, after his bonus (probably paid tomorrow depending on wording in contract), is going to be making league minimum (0.825M due to the Oilers retention). So even if he is a warm body, he's taking a place of a warm body that would be making as much or more. So he doesn't have any more "cash" associated with him than Bishop really (which we don't know how much insurance is on the hook for though we can likely speculate the entire amount).
Ladd had $5,000,000.00 left on his contract when they acquired him for 2 years. A league minimum player would be making $1,450,000.00 over those 2 years for a net negative of $3,550,000 to the Yotes for taking him on.
Gostisbehere had $4,25,000.00 left on his contract when they acquired him for 2 years. A league minimum player results in a net negative of $2,800,000 to the Yotes for taking him on.
Ladd especially was expected to be a healthy scratch (or LTIR) but Gostisbehere was often a healthy scratch for the Flyers and had cleared waivers. Lucic played in every game for a divisional champion team and would cost a mere $75,000 more than a league minimum player for them. They just aren't comparable situations.
But Ladd and Gost also came with that 2nd year adding to uncertainty. Lucic doesn't have that and the Yotes are currently 13M away from the floor with 17 players signed. Their five RFAs are Crouse, Hayton (24 points), Fischer (10 points), Capobianco (45 games in the NHL, 20 in the AHL), Dineen (34 games in the NHL, 21 in the AHL) so the only one looking at much more than league minimum is Crouse. If they sign Hayton, Fischer, Capobianco and Dineen for 4M, that requires them to sign Crouse and a backup goalie for 9M if they don't sign any UFA of note or take on a cap dump. That's not enough to reach the floor.
Lucic and his 5M+ cap hit though would mean they don't need to worry about the floor. Again, if Lucic was willing to waive or has Arizona on his list of places he would be traded to he needs to submit tomorrow, then I think Arizona would give up something for him, not just be willing to take him on. They get a quality player at 0.825M and now can spend below the floor.