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Originally Posted by dino7c
this guy, you are really losing all credibility here
top prospect that said he would only play for the Rangers
Lindholm/Hanafin>Barzal and that's with hindsight drafting...last I checked Bruins didn't take him with that pick
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How is saying they traded their top prospect losing credibility? He was competing for Valamaki at the time with the better analysts saying he was their top prospect:
https://theathletic.com/196975/2018/...pects-ranking/
Yes, he had completed his second year in Havard and was going to be able to sign where he wanted in a couple years if he decided to get his degree, so the Flames made a great trade in getting something for him, but they still included their top prospect in a trade to acquire established players. That's very rarely a sign of a rebuild. I would say you would have to agree with me but it's looking like I could say that Iginla was drafted by Dallas and you would argue he was drafted by Florida for no other reason to disagree.
But that wasn't even the first trade in the chain. They traded their 2015 pick, an 18 year old player, for an older player in 2015. So trading first round picks for an established player, then trading that established player with a top prospect to get established players. They were both good trades resulting in quality players for the Flames, but they were not moves made by rebuilding teams. Saying they were not moves of a rebuilding team does not mean they aren't good trades, it means they aren't rebuilding moves. You guys like making up arguments in your head while ignoring the original discussion.
If tomorrow the Flames (or any team) acquired Yakupov, Galchenyuk and Reinhart from the 2012 draft, would that retroactively mean they were rebuilding in 2012 now? No? Then how does acquiring the 5th overall in 2015 in 2018 mean they were rebuilding in 2015?
As for Barzal, he was the faller that year (and Kylington).
https://flamesnation.ca/2015/06/25/2015-nhl-mock-draft/ had him at 6 and Boston making a Juolevi x3 level of error you would have that Treliving would not make. And thank God they did. If they didn't try to be the smartest people in the room and just drafted Barzal, Connor and Chabot, we wouldn't even be having a discussion because it would be a foregone conclusion that this decade the Cup belongs to the Bruins.