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Originally Posted by browna
As mentioned a few weeks ago, both sides very likely know how this is turning out by this point.
Numbers and interested suitors have been finalized probably before the playoffs were over for the Flames, through, as mentioned, the various back channels of agents and intermediary people.
Gaudreau, if he's leaving, is not holding the Flames hostage by delaying any decision to the club, he would likely have already told them. Of course the the club would be using the same back channels right now to figure how who they may be able to get and how much as far as a UFA.
JG agent and him and the Flames know generally how much other teams will offer, and the Flames offer is probably pretty concrete too.
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The big problem with the bolded is it assumes other teams are sitting on their hands just waiting/hoping that Johnny becomes available so they can pull the trigger. A LOT can change between now and the draft, let alone between the draft and UFA day.
None of us know how detailed these back-channel talks are (though Tre would), but we can be pretty sure that a player can't fully rely on them until the bells begin to ring on UFA day (or a team trades for his rights).
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I’d love to know if Gaudreau’s camp has put a formal counteroffer on the table. I’m betting they haven’t.
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Which can be a savvy negotiating tactic, especially at this point. Keep the ball in CGY's court and simply say "You'll have to do better than that".
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
So then are we taking the narrative that Johnny Gaudreau is a liar? He has certainly said he loves it here, his family loves it here, his wife loves it here, and he would like to stay. He has said this more times than I ever heard either Landeskog or Stamkos say that. I never heard LeBrun say Gaudreau wanted to go back East, just that could be a reason he doesn't stay. I find it interesting that Eric Francis used that as a reason he would leave for years and everybody bought into it. I mean how many players play far away from where they grew up? The majority of them. I am not buying this whole Johnny wants to be back East because he got put on the spot years ago on a Philly radio that it would be sweet to play for the Flyers one day. Gaudreau has grown up a lot since then, he has a new wife and an established life in Calgary now. Another thing to bare in mind, I can't remember who said it but someone in the media did say Gaudreau cares about records and legacy a lot. I just don't see any way he walks, I won't be sweating it until it is announced he is signed elsewhere.
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Just guessing here, but you're probably a little less plugged in to the minutia of TBL and COL? Onus is on you here to dig up some quotes from those guys where they are cooler to the idea of re-signing.