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Originally Posted by chedder
Aside from the fact that what you're asking for is impossible and banning will do nothing to stop bad people from having guns and doing bad things with them.
Maybe the good guys should have done what they are trained and swore an oath to to do and go in and get the bad guy. 6 guys with six big guns and shields should be able to neutralize one 18 year old with no training and a gun and prevent many of the needless deaths.
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Firstly its not impossible, if the good citizens of the US decided to get rid of guns (and I agree that is neither likely or anywhere close right now) but if there was a vast change in the view of ordinary Americans, then getting rid of vast amounts of guns would be a quick process, first the gun makers close down so parts become difficult, ammo also disappears quickly, most gun owners are not that arsed at this point, they may not agree with a law but they wont spend a fortune on black market parts or ammo or risk jail for a gun that at this point is utterly useless, no gun clubs or ranges to play on so most will hand their guns in, the hardcore will take longer but over time their guns will fall into the polices hands through regular arrests, domestics, evictions etc, thats pretty much what happened in the UK Australia, they all had alot of guns but very few people actually want to go to jail.
Secondly the only source for guns for most criminals in the whole of the west is the US, if you cut off that source criminals lose access, black market guns balloon in price very quickly, and also just so were clear you and I have nothing to worry about from criminals with guns now, criminals shoot other criminals, the people that will shoot you and me will be our disgruntled neighbour or pissed off teenager.
If, and its a hugely unlikely if, the US decides to follow the rest of the world it really wont be that hard, its the part where they change their minds about guns and decide to do it that's the hard part, not the getting the guns off the street part.
As to the cops, well everyone of them knew first guy in was going to die, and so while they all likely wanted to go in it was easy for the inertia of fear to stop them, Joe Pooloka city cops are neither well paid or well trained, Rambo they aint