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Old 06-17-2022, 12:48 PM   #3521
powderjunkie
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Originally Posted by VilleN View Post
It definitely won't be worth it for the whole contract - but that is pretty much the case with all long term UFA deals.
Yup, the question is how likely it will come back to bite us.

Kessel's retention is only now coming off TOR's books and hindered them a bit in their prime windows.

DAL - Oettinger, Heiskanen, Hintz, Robertson are a very nice young core four to build around. But they've got Benn and Seguin for 3 and 5 more years.

MIN - obviously a very different case, but Suter/Parise are biting them through the prime years of a lot of good players.


I think it's unlikely the Flames manage to contend with Johnny...the best we can hope for is probably a run like EDM just had. It's pretty hard to imagine CGY anywhere near these TBL/COL teams in the next couple years, and even the next tier of NYR/CAR/FLA/STL/etc seems unlikely. The best reason for hope is the relative weakness of the West, but it'll take a lot of luck to ever get past COL.

Sustained contention will almost certainly require guys like Wolf and Zary and a D-man to emerge as elite players, which probably means at least 3-4 years (think of how long TBL/COL took to go from great to exceptional). If we are so lucky for that to happen, then Johnny may well be a bit of an anchor by then. I'd rather have Lindholm and Mangi/Tkachuk as the older guys on long-term deals in that scenario.

I'd still try to sign him, but I don't think it's particularly dire if we don't.
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