But if it was natural or even appears natural then it's not influence at all. That's like saying when a book falls off a table and hits the floor that it did so under God's influence instead of gravity, and then trying to argue which influenced the event, God or Gravity, with no way of possibly knowing which it was. The discussion has no merit.
Religion doesn't claim that God influences events in a natural way, it claims that God directly intervenes in a very unnatural or supernatural (and therefore provable) way.
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Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
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