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Old 06-05-2022, 03:16 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by opendoor View Post
I don't know, based on a quick look at the UK trial judgement, my takeaway is that they were both probably abusive to each other. Even if you accept that Heard is completely full of **** and that the UK trial judge was biased for some reason, to me at least there still seem to be enough contemporaneous accounts from 3rd parties, as well as Depp more or less admitting that he had become physical on multiple occasions, to think that there was abuse going on. And of course, Heard was caught on tape admitting that she was physically abusive as well. Holding either of these people up as paragons of anything is asinine.
As I understand it (and I very well could be wrong), it’s very unlikely for a relationship to be “mutually abusive”. Certainly, in an abusive relationship there can be times of violence going both ways, but that doesn’t mean abuse went both ways. It’s taken decades for the psychology of this to be accepted in cases where an abused wife has severely injured or even killed her husband. In many of those cases, there are times when she might fight back against her abuser, but we would never claim that they were mutually abusive.

To my reading, many people who are looking at this as “mutual abuse” are overlooking the significant work that has gone into understanding the psychology of abuse victims. There are very good reasons we mo longer hold those wives criminally responsible when they finally snap and attack their abusive husbands, even to the point of lethal force.

In this case, again just based on what I’ve read, it seems likely that Amber Heard was the abuser and there were perhaps times when Depp fought back. But this doesn’t mean he “abused” her.
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