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Just for the record the real effect of banning guns isn't that they'd completely go away. It's two fold:

(1) limiting or eliminating legal access means everyday people can't get their hands on a gun, thus they can't accidentally shoot someone else, they can't shoot themselves, they can't use a gun in a moment of manic stress, and someone else can't use the gun. Those gun deaths and injuries literally drop to zero.

(2) Yes. Criminals will find a way. But not all criminals. You're effectively raising the price of guns. Restricting supply, and lowering the demand. Meaning price goes up. So even if you're willing to break the law to have a gun, the price is much higher.

You'll never eliminate all guns. But you'll never eliminate all crime. Doesn't mean we just repeal the Criminal Code and say "oh well, what ya gonna do?"

You can debate the effectiveness of policies, legislation, etc... but the above 2 issues hold true. You essentially need to debate within those parameters to argue in good faith.