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Old 05-26-2022, 03:58 PM   #1366
OptimalTates
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss View Post
What I read was the police called out and asked if anyone needed help and then the kid got shot when he answered - which is a particularly terrible strategy if you don't have control of the situation.

A boatload of kids got killed - waiting around was a terrible move. Its also against the findings after Columbine about how to respond.
IARD, the strategy developed in response to Columbine, was deployed. That was the initial firefight between the couple of first responders who immediately engaged with the shooter when they arrived on scene, four minutes after Ramos entered the school.

Previously they would have waited for SWAT before entering the school and exchanging gunfire. Why it failed in this case might be poor training, cowardice or just bad luck, but all signs point to it being deployed (unless the story changes again).

When it failed, when the shooter had barricaded himself in, this is when the immediate action rapid deployment strategy ends. It became a shift from active shooter to barricade gunman.

The first couple of officers could be criticized for their failures, though I would tend to simply blame the shooter, but those who came after he had barricaded himself in the classroom and had not fired for the reported 30 minutes, would be foolish to use a strategy that was designed for a completely different situation.

Far too many children got killed but not while the police were waiting outside for SWAT, equipment, backup and negotiators as far as I'm aware. They were shot moments after he entered the classroom.

Completely different ballgame if they were hearing him shooting another victim every couple of minutes, but most of these officers likely didn't hear gunfire until they forced the issue when they felt they were ready.
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