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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Dec 22 2004, 05:23 PM
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I gotta go with Frank on this one. Give me one good reason why someone shouldn't be responsible for their own actions, and I'm talking their own willing intentional actions.
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If everyone is responsible for their own actions, then why doesn't the government allow them access to more dangerous weapons, like automatic guns? Because the government, while holding you responsible for your actions, also feels the need to protect people from themselves. Thats why they provide old age pension, unemployment insurance, healthcare, education, etc. Because individuals are NOT responsible for every aspect of their lives. The government holds many of your basic rights and needs as THEIR responsibility.
Wal-Mart probably shouldn't be responsible. If they did everything within the law, and the law failed this girl, then its probably the law's fault. You believe that nothing can be done, and these tragedies are just a side-effect of freedom? Pretty poor side effect from her point of view (or was).
And btw, if you seriously think you 'choose' to eat at McDonalds, actively and without unconscious bias thats been programmed into you, then I heartily disagree. If you go because its 'good', then you have terrible taste in food, and if you go because its 'cheap' or 'convenient', check out Safeways, they've got much better, healthier, equally convenient food. Maybe you go to McDonalds for other reasons... but I'm sure its because you just love their cooking so much, that must be it.
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I'm missing on where you are getting the fact that I am comparing handguns to automatic weapons? Sorry. Anyhow, I'm all for tougher gun legislation, I seriously have no need for any guns whatsoever in society. I don't think my point is particularily radical, I just want people to be accountable. We are continually brought down to the level of the stupidest person in society, because they have the ability to sue at will and blame the world for everything. I'm just tired of it. Just because I want people to be accountable doesn't mean I think you should be able to go to 7-11 and buy an M-16.
Wal Mart followed the rules to a "t" and yet these parents are trying to hold them responsible. She obviously wanted to kill herself very badly as she knew how to work the system by lying on her background check and her death, as unfortunate as it was, seemed to be inevitable. I fel bad for her parents, but Wal Mart did nothing wrong except be the store she happened to go to.