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Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium
And CNN is garbage. And I'm skeptical of claims of pro-Ukrainian OSINTers when it comes to casualty counts. For what it's worth, I'm skeptical of the Russian ones, too.
The point is that it's difficult to determine which vehicles belong to whom based on images like this one, pulled from post #6153. But the pro-Ukrainian OSINTers are implying these are all Russian.
AFV 1, 2 and 3 are BMP-1. Two of their turrets are seen at 4 and 5. AFV 6 is a BTR-D. So what? Well, the Russians do not use BMP-1. The UAF and Donbas militias use them. But the Russian army uses different variants (BMP-1AM and BRM-1K). Russian airborne units, Ukrainian ground and air forces and the Donbas militias use the BTR-D - the latter having captured them from UAF.
Basically, this picture tells us nothing except a battle took place and all sides likely took casualties, but there is nothing in this picture that one can conclude all casualties are Russian. |
You can see video of that exact spot during the fight here:
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...y_fire_whilst/
I don't know, that doesn't seem too inconsistent with the narrative. And then there's this video from earlier which is also consistent with Russia getting equipment across before the bridge was destroyed. There are several tanks just sitting there with their turrets facing the Ukrainian controlled side. If those were Ukrainian tanks, presumably they'd be shooting at each other across the river:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1524751543869661184