[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I'm not even debating the existence of god here. What I said above is what I've been led to believe that I should, umm, believe. If I'm all turned around on the matter then straighten me out.

Any churchifying I've sat through contained the following in one form or another:

1. God exists and is the creator of everything that ever was or will be.
2. He loves you
3. The devil is out to get you, don't let him or you'll wind up in hell
4. If you are good you will wind up in heaven with God

I'm sure there are more, but those are the basics. I wasn't in first year philosophy when I started to wonder about how it all works. It never made sense and nobody has satisfactorily explained the contradictions, even if you claim it was resolved hundreds of years ago.

What you have there and the arguement about God being an Omnimax God, and the existance of evil are not the same thing.
I'm not argueing the exisatnce of God. I don't care. What I'm arguing is the logic used in that arguement, which is flawed.