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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Okay, fine, my response is "I don't know", but I'll tell you this, any attempt to determine anything about the existance of God from that line of reasoning is doomed to failure.
But come on, let's call a spade a spade. You honestly want me to beleive that you just wanted to know why there was evil, or was what you really meant "How can you justify the existance of god based on this arguement and the existance of evil".
Because if that wasn't your intent, then it would seem to me you're going in circles. You know evil exists, and you believe God does not exist, yet you want to know why it is that evil exists based on the premis that God doe exist.
Which way is it? Are you questioning the existance of God, or are yo uaccepting this as true and using it as a premise to question reason for the existance of evil?
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I want to know how a person who believes that their God...any God for that matter, ( could be Zeuss, the Abrahamic version, Mohammed, or the God of the Flames), could believe that IF their version is an
Omnimax God how could He let evil survive...or begin for that matter. It has nothing to do with my beliefs whether you want to buy into that or not.
What I believe is irrelevant, but if you want to know a small part...then heres a snippet...
"Without Evil there can be no religion."...this is their point of view...
Without evil, there is no good. Without sin, there can be no salvation
Therefore it is in ANY religions interest to ensure that Evil takes front and centre stage to ensure that their flock remains complacent. Without a fear of Hell there is no need for <pick your flavor> religion.
Now use this with omnipotent =
all-powerful, omniscient =
all-knowing and omnibenevolent =
all compassionate, and you are close to where Im leaning.
I believe that man is
inherantly good....of course some people have difficulties, (either through social upbringing or emotional distress) that make bad things happen...like Murder, Rape, election to Political Office, etc etc. That does NOT suggest that Satan made them do it, nor would it have changed the outcome if they were fine upstanding Christians. (of course Im minimilizing things). There are also MILLIONS of good people who hold no theistic leaning, they do great deeds and make this earth a wonderful place to live...Further to that...speaking from a Christians point of view....you MUST accept their version of an Abrahamic God in order to get the free pass into
their version of heaven. If thats the case many good and wonderful people outside of this choice will go to hell. That includes visionaries such as Mahatma Ghandi, Mother Theresa, and BILLIONS of young babies who have died from various scourge and attrocities throughout history who never had the chance of accepting this God Version 2318C. That is the kind of Omnipotence I dont buy into...and many are turning their backs on.