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Old 05-06-2022, 05:09 PM   #384
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Originally Posted by GGG View Post
You seem to be latching onto alternatives without discussing scale or causality. For example if over doses doubled you would see 166k more deaths world wide. If you said drug associated deaths doubled you would see 750k more deaths

https://ourworldindata.org/illicit-drug-use

Increases in Cancer deaths I would attribute to the pandemic as both isolation measures and overwhelmed hospitals would have reduced detection and treatment leading to more deaths.

So in terms of excess death there aren’t meaningful alternative explanations for the 15-20 million number outside of Covid and Covid adjacent.

So if we want to talk about confirmation bias ……

Also again you forgot to put the conclusion you are making from your data in your post so I assumed you intend to say that the impact of Covid globally is exaggerated which I disagree with
Lets talk significance. Using your 750K number per year (link was only to 2019 so somewhat irrelevant) and over 2 years would equal 1.5M. 15M (as stated in the article) deaths minus the actual Covid of 6M is 9M excess deaths. 1.5M of 9M is about 17% of excess deaths. Not insignificant in my mind.

My comment is that the others were equating all the deaths to Covid and stating that it wasn't just a flu. These are two different things and it certainly seems to me to be using something that does not equate to prove ones point, which seems like confirmation bias to me.

My point had nothing to do with whether Covid impact was exaggerated. Never said that nor believed it. Just that some are using this article improperly.
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