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Originally Posted by FireFly
If He changes the outcome, you don't have free will.
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Huh? Doesn't he "change the outcome" all the time? What is the point of going to church or praying or going through all the rituals or even reading the book?
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Originally Posted by FireFly
You want free will, don't you? He gives you a choice, you can choose your eternity. It's the kind of love every parent gives their child when they send them out into the world.
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That doesn't sound like love to me. What you are proposing is something akin to a parent putting a chocolate cake in front of a hungry five-year-old, asking him not to take a bite and then beating him to death when he does. If that's love, it's definitely "tough love".