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Originally Posted by AltaGuy
Haha, on the heels of Kavanaugh's lies on this exact topic, you say this? Why would you pretend that gaslighting isn't exceptionally common.
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I didn't say anything about gaslighting and I don't think Brett Kavanaugh's statements are in even relevant. Even if he had said publicly that he was opposed to late term abortion only, and then privately said "actually I don't care, I just want abortion outlawed entirely", that would be one guy. But I don't think he did say that - what he did was mislead the public about whether he would vote to overturn
Roe v. Wade.
Regardless, I'm not denying that there are a lot of people who use rhetoric to attempt to disguise ideological positions that are in fact devoid of principle - I'm obviously far too big a cynic to ever deny that that happens. But to attribute that behaviour to anyone expressing an argument that on its face is reasonable is a step way, way too far.
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There's an argument that legislating on late-term abortions increases the number of abortions, forcing earlier/emergency decision-making. Regardless, given that we are at 100% effectively, it's moot.
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Well, we're not, though, are we? If it's actually the case that there are zero late term abortions performed in Canada every year, that's certainly good evidence that there's no practical point in outlawing them. But I thought the actual reality is that there are, in the grand scheme of things, not very many such abortions.
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Originally Posted by AltaGuy
??? huh?
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I'm now confused about what you're confused about. Do you not recognize that you're making a utilitarian argument?