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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
That's a bit of a misrepresentation of what I'm saying - I'm not saying that that position is in and of itself indicative of moral grandstanding. There are, in my view, more extreme positions than what Altaguy was saying that are at least theoretically defensible, including things like a spectrum of moral personhood that could go all the way up to adulthood, or even anti-natalism (which I don't really think makes much sense but there are certainly people who have advanced it in earnest). What I was referring to as moral grandstanding is the certitudinous attitude that there's nothing worth even discussing, just hand-waving away any notion that, for example, late term abortion is even up for debate... Which seemed to be what was implied by the statement "the garbage thing about debates over "late-term" abortions is that it is entirely political/religious. Abortions should be a medical decision made behind closed doors."
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The garbage thing about the late-term "debate" is that it is almost always made in poor faith as a stepping-stone to erode a woman's right to choose and to impose a situation of state intervention in a private matter where no-one has proven harm. But there is decidedly proven harm in fettering the right to choose, and state intervention contributes to that.
What I definitely don't understand about your (extended) arguments here is that you seem to be summing up the pro-life/pro-choice stances and making it seem as if you're saying something novel. Yes, if a person believes we are murdering fetuses, they might hold a pro-life view. That goes at four weeks, or thirty weeks. It's the same debate: should you legislate on that opinion or allow for choice? Some here seem to believe that it's morally outrageous
not to legislate term-limits on abortion, despite evidence that legislating that would have no effect on abortions, and negative effects on women's health.
I believe that it should remain a choice, and the fact is that 100% of women (or close enough) are choosing not to have late-stage abortions absent a compelling medical reason.