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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Nice insult. As Jason Statham said in Snatch, ‘I'll have to remember that one next time I'm climbing off yer mum.’
What have the last seven years got to do with anything? People like you keep banging on about how ‘this core’ has never got it done in the postseason. Well, here is the entire list of players on the active roster today who have been on the roster for the last seven years:
Johnny Gaudreau
Mikael Backlund
That's it. No wonder the team never wins, if it only has two core players!
This isn't the same team that was in the playoffs of 2015, 2017, 2019, or 2020. At the moment, the Flames' roster page at nhl.com lists 26 players. Only 12 of those were on the team in 2020, and one of those 12 is Sean Monahan, who won't be playing. The persistence of some fans in talking as if this were the same team as ever is incomprehensible to me.
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thanks for providing the citation for your mom chirp lol
Anyways yeah, your Tampa comp is terrible. That was an elite team that had proved it could hack it in the playoffs (ie win a freaking series) up til that point. There was clearly something there. They also didn't have their number one player about to enter free agency. Also they're the strongest NHL dynasty in decades so talk about cherry picking your choice. It's just an all around awful comparison point that doesnt apply to the Flames this year at all.
The "crapshoot 7 game series" canard also doesn't hold for the flames this year. They've made the playoffs 5 times, they've had plenty of looks. Most of their series losses weren't particularly close, the ducks twice and the avalanche were robust ass kickings. Considering all that plus the quality of opponent the Flames are facing now and would expect to be facing in the second round these have to be wins. We need to have some self-esteem as a fan base, I know we're accustomed to mediocrity from this team but that doesn't mean we have chalk up what would be a huge and justified disappointment to bad bounces or bad luck, good hockey teams like we supposedly have are expected to beat lower teams in series.
And yeah, we've had some guys move around and the roster has turned over a lot since 2015 but most of our top players have been here for multiple playoff letdowns. Multiple. But deeper than that, this year really is a referendum on Gaudreau so it's fitting that he's been around for all of it. We're about to get yet another data point on what happens when Gaudreau is your best player. The returns so far are not great. *IF* it happens again, then pretty clearly what you get with johnny as your best player is a team that has bursts, either misses the playoffs or finishes fairly high, but always loses. It's pretty clear from that point, and especially prescient with him about to become a UFA that the Flames would have to contribute even more of their already stretched cap to, that if your goal is to actually win a championship it's not in the cards.
Also I never said blow it up, I said re-tool.