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Originally Posted by Sliver
In the land of make believe, yes, we agree with each other on that.
In reality, it's absurdly and obviously impossible. Different groups have different needs and wants that will always run into conflict with each other. What is good for me may be detrimental to you.
And to take it back to the current situation, I'm less concerned about getting along with Russia and more concerned with pulling literally every lever we can to stop this war.
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The fact that an ideal may not be perfectly achievable doesn't mean it's not a practical good. We may not be able to achieve positive relations with everyone in our lives, but that doesn't mean we should give up on achieving that as fully as we can.
I don't think we even disagree substantially on pulling levers to stop war, though we do disagree on the cost-benefit and efficacy of some levers. Look at Pointman's post about how a move like banning athletes is actually interpreted in Russia and what the outcome is. That's not a net positive for ending war.