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Originally Posted by troutman
Sounds like humanism.
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Yes it does. Maybe we're missing some of the more "extreme attributes" of a neo-atheist, but that list of three sure sounds like humanism.
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Am I a good Catholic? Debatable, I think I'm a good person, but I don't do everything I'm supposed to (i.e. Church and praying). But I'll tell you this, I'll definately send my kids to Catholic schools because at least there is a class that sets a moral standard, that whether it is based in belief in God or not, I feel is a good one (you know, don't kill, be good to your neighbour type of thing), and will be the same things I'm teaching them at home (though likely without the God angle).
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So what you're saying is you're not a good enough parent to teach your children morals yourself? You need indoctrination and thought control to keep your kids from knifing other kids to death?
A successful person is a person who is good and just, not because he was told to be or threatened to be, but because he is.
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Originally Posted by FireFly
Ah yes, those who interpret the Bible literally and fail to realize that it's all an interpretation. Queue Cheese with his comments about "Well if it's truely the word of God, why would He allow it to be interpreted any way but the correct one?"  |
A "queue" is a line. For somebody with that incredibly annoying signature, you should at least know the difference between a "queue" and a "cue". Truly as well, fwiw.
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Did God come on down and write a book? Some people might say yes, and the're the ones taking everything literally, who I'll agree are a little crazy.
Or a rational person can see it as a teaching aide to get the ideas across, you know, about morality.
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So do you use the bible to instruct your kids on how to be xenophobic, hateful and intolerant? Or do you just ignore those parts and use the "good" parts?
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Only some people do that.
If all humans were like that, then science would never have developed to where it has.
In spite of religion, for the past 500 years, science has been the much bigger influence. It's also worth mentioning that many of the early scientists during the people of awakening in the Western judeo-christian world, were "indoctrinated" by religion.... yet here we are.
This is why we should watch the general statements.
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Ever heard of the Great Library? We lost out on 1000(+) years of free thought and technological progress because of its loss and the corresponding dive into the dark ages. Free thought was destroyed along with the library and religion was allowed to take hold. For 1000 years humanity accomplished almost nothing. Can you imagine if the calculus was invented 1000 years before Newton and Leibniz? The steam engine? The industrial revolution? The propogation of free thought? Instead we wasted time on the ignorance of religion, witch hunts and sacrificial killings.
Religion is the most major impediment to science there is. Noting a number of theistic scientists is no more to the point than pointing out the few that exist now.