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Jason14h · 04-16-2022, 01:44 PM

Yea I am concerned on their chase rate - it’s last in the majors

You seem to be confusing “are the Jays good” with “are they good in spite of their manager”

I believe it is the later. I think Montoyas in game decisions cost the Jays , and I don’t think he is great at the fundamentals

He allows the players to get by naturally on their skill - and their skill is better then 80-90% of the league now

Potentially he was a big reason the players developed (I don’t really see it and see the players making the same mistakes they did 2 years ago )but I dont think he is the guy who gets you over the hump and is good enough / focused enough on the fine details

I 100% believe the Jays make the playoffs with an average manager last year.

We had the best hitter , Cy Young Pitcher, 3x silver sluggers , a closer who blew 1 game , the best rookie pitcher in the league , and a 2B who set the HR record

And we missed the playoffs ……

04-16-2022, 01:44 PM	#455
Jason14h Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Exp:	Yea I am concerned on their chase rate - it’s last in the majors You seem to be confusing “are the Jays good” with “are they good in spite of their manager” I believe it is the later. I think Montoyas in game decisions cost the Jays , and I don’t think he is great at the fundamentals He allows the players to get by naturally on their skill - and their skill is better then 80-90% of the league now Potentially he was a big reason the players developed (I don’t really see it and see the players making the same mistakes they did 2 years ago )but I dont think he is the guy who gets you over the hump and is good enough / focused enough on the fine details I 100% believe the Jays make the playoffs with an average manager last year. We had the best hitter , Cy Young Pitcher, 3x silver sluggers , a closer who blew 1 game , the best rookie pitcher in the league , and a 2B who set the HR record And we missed the playoffs …… Last edited by Jason14h; 04-16-2022 at 01:46 PM.