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Old 04-12-2022, 03:00 PM   #5247
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Originally Posted by curves2000 View Post
I understand that we are on different sides on this and that is ok. I am by no means a military expert here but in some ways, does some of the semantics really matter? We now have reports that NATO countries and now allowing NATO jet's to be delivered to Ukrainian Air Forces to kill Russian army personal.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...Vladimir-Putin

Now in the grand schemes if your Putin, does it really matter if the pilots name is either Igor or Ian if he's attacking your military with US backing? Who do we think is pulling some of the strings from behind the scenes with this airspace backing? Canada? What do we think that these NATO jet's are going to do in Ukraine? Go for a power polish and an oil change?

Like I said earlier, a huge ground swell of activity is happening from NATO countries at rocket like speed to get Ukraine the weapons they have been demanding for a long long time. Mountains of equipment cause now the war has changed. The eastern front battle will be unlike the other battles ragging and Europe and the west know what is at stake if Russia win's this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...days-not-weeks

There is an element of NATO and the west is involved but not really but we are helping directly, but not too directly etc. Putin has always said NATO and NATO policy is 100% American policy, end of story and in that regard, he is right. It isn't Estonia and Romania calling the shots here it's America.

We just got to make sure we come out ahead on this and fast, we don't need a long and protracted war of this scale and this continuing as than NATO and the west's options become very limited and everybody knows this.
This isn't semantics. The west can sell/supply/gift anything we want to Ukraine. That's what we're doing.

If, as an example, the American government sends American pilots and flight crews, using American aircraft, fighting under American flags inside Ukraine - a country not in NATO - then the war has just escalated so America is directly fighting Russia. Now you have the USA and Russia in a hot war.

That you don't get this is perplexing. You may not like the logic, but it's the logic every single country on the planet is following right now, including Russia.
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