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Originally Posted by Sliver
Okay, so you put in a no-fly zone. Who enforces it? NATO? You want NATO aircraft shooting down Russian aircraft? That's madness. There's no point in putting in a no-fly zone if it can't be enforced...that just hands Russia a win when they ignore it.
And it would have been premature to give Ukraine a ton of high-quality weapons on day one. There was an expectation Russia was going to dominate this war. Try to find an analyst from pre-war that thought Russia was going to do this poorly. The thought was Russia would kick major ass, so why would you want to give Ukraine a bunch of weaponry if you were concerned it would just fall into Russian hands days or weeks later. It was a reasonable approach at the time, but you're being a Monday morning quarterback.
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I understand that we are on different sides on this and that is ok. I am by no means a military expert here but in some ways, does some of the semantics really matter? We now have reports that NATO countries and now allowing NATO jet's to be delivered to Ukrainian Air Forces to kill Russian army personal.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...Vladimir-Putin
Now in the grand schemes if your Putin, does it really matter if the pilots name is either Igor or Ian if he's attacking your military with US backing? Who do we think is pulling some of the strings from behind the scenes with this airspace backing? Canada? What do we think that these NATO jet's are going to do in Ukraine? Go for a power polish and an oil change?
Like I said earlier, a huge ground swell of activity is happening from NATO countries at rocket like speed to get Ukraine the weapons they have been demanding for a long long time. Mountains of equipment cause now the war has changed. The eastern front battle will be unlike the other battles ragging and Europe and the west know what is at stake if Russia win's this.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...days-not-weeks
There is an element of NATO and the west is involved but not really but we are helping directly, but not too directly etc. Putin has always said NATO and NATO policy is 100% American policy, end of story and in that regard, he is right. It isn't Estonia and Romania calling the shots here it's America.
We just got to make sure we come out ahead on this and fast, we don't need a long and protracted war of this scale and this continuing as than NATO and the west's options become very limited and everybody knows this.