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Old 03-20-2022, 06:12 PM   #4251
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Sure, I'll play the bad guy here. But trillions in reparations is not going to happen, not with a nuclear super power. First of all, then there's no reason for Russia to relent or negotiate, because they'd be facing economic death. Second of all because lets say that you do put pretty much a permanent economy crushing series of reparations on Russia and Putin is deposed, what comes after him will likely be far more because the russian people will be desperate and angry. So you'll literally get a North Korea x 5000 that's either selling advanced nuclear technology, or worse.

There's a hard line that you can take that will just further destabilize that region of the world and lead to a nuclear barbaric state, and will probably just lead to a more punitive war against Ukraine. If we want that killing to end, its likely that there has to be a way out for Russia as well.

I do believe that the international courts do need to be convened but its unlikely that trial goes ahead.

On top of that one of the conditions that Russia has in ending the war is a phased ending of sanctions in exchange for a good faith ceasefire and withdrawal by Russia.

We don't want to recreate the rise of facism in Germany after WW1.
I can't say I disagree. Having such drastic demands for reparations won't work without an unconditional surrender, and that just won't happen. The world has also avoided the whole concept after the lessons learned with WWI and WWII.

I can see some reparations being agreed to in indirect ways, like favourable trade agreements and joint infrastructure projects. Ukraine won't get an amount that they truly deserve out of Russia of course.

Much of the reparations will come from Europe and NATO partners who are sympathetic to Ukraine through investment. I hope the peace agreement includes fast tracking Ukraine to the EU which would also allow Ukrainians to work abroad and send money home as well.
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