[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can try to make this personal all you like but it’s not that interesting. You’re the same poster who, ironically, plays the victim and throws a fit every time someone calls out a bad take of yours, so I don’t hold your opinion of my posting history with any weight.

I will, however, explain what victim blaming/shaming is, since you seem confused. Victim blaming is when a victim (or in this case an alleged victim) is held partially or fully responsible for the criminal acts committed against them. An example of this would be saying things like “why didn’t she leave” or “they were infatuated with him” or “she wanted the bad boy.” That’s victim blaming. Victim blaming is not: talking about lawsuits and accusations brought against someone. No where have I said or suggested Manson deserves to be defamed or brought it upon himself, because if it true, he obviously does not. You can accuse me of victim blaming Manson whenever you want, but it wouldn’t matter, because it comes from a place of you not even understanding the term. It holds zero weight.

I’ll also ask again: can you please show some proof of the claims that people from the video set claimed it didn’t happen or that the police found nothing in the November raid? I think it’d be good if you’re interested in representing the truth here, right?

You’re using a lot of chintzy buzzwords to feign a point about how free a thinker you are, but if so, you should be smart enough to know that people can look at both sides (unafraid to do so even!) and come to the conclusion that in a situation where there are multiple lawsuits and over a dozen of other accusations, that the balance of probabilities tells us these are not all made up. Or is your position that all the women who claim to have been abused and the witnesses to this abuse are making it up? Dozens of strangers just conspiring to bring down one rockstar, some anonymously, some seeking no financial retribution whatsoever… for what, exactly? Use those thoughts of your own to shine a little light on it for us.

Actually that is not what victim shaming is. If a man rapes a woman and he says that she dresses provocative so she obviously wanted it and I agreed with that, that would be victim shaming. If someone claims one thing and the other person claims another and you try and look at it from both sides that is not victim shaming because either party could be the victim there. I find it hilarious people actually thanked that, Some people love a victim, back in the old days of Salem you would probably be burning innocent people at the stake because they were accused of witchcraft. Mob mentality loves it's victims and it loves destroying the accused no matter what the facts end up being.