[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Apparently asking questions or presenting competing theories to something undetermined is denialism?

When you ignore the mountain of evidence and focus on a tiny detail, and try to obfuscate the mountain, it's denialism.

I’m not sure any reasonable person would agree with that and I’m not sure what the constant condescension and combativeness from one poster does to make this thread more interesting, as I don’t really see why these discussions need to be dramatic.

Hey, then maybe stop dragging this discussion into others in attempt to discredit the poster in question. When I see posters dragging points made here into other topics and using an out of content statement like "believing in aliens" as a means to discredit, it's why the condescension and combativeness comes out, because the ruthless dogpiles and attacks are unwarranted.

I think it’s interesting hearing the differing stories of Fravor/Day/Underwood and others who were there for that specific event as well as West giving reasonable explanation for certain elements of it.

I agree, which is exactly why those particular points are put forward. These are actual subject matter experts. These are the actual people involved in the events. They are the ones we should be listening to. They are the ones best served in answering the questions. That is why their information is so important. What is annoying about guys like West is they are not out to try and answer the question of "what was that thing that all these people and technologies saw?" His whole gig is to try and explain the event away rather than try to understand the entirety of the event or ask the larger question. He is trying to discredit these people or the technology on minor technicalities more than answer questions. That's my problem with these people and why I don't view them as skeptics.