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Old 03-16-2022, 09:38 AM   #4010
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Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
Anything that stops the violence is welcome news!


But Russia coming to the negotiating table makes me think they can't sustain the invasion and are looking for a way out.



Millions of lives are at stake, but maybe now is the time for Ukraine to say #### you Putin - the terms are you leave and we forge our own destiny.

That stance means the fighting carries on and Putin tries to up the human cost and destruction of Ukraine's cities and economic centers. At this point, with crushing sanctions that will take the Russian's years to recover from, and pretty much the exposure and destruction of large numbers of soldiers and equipment, and Putin possibly staring into the political grave, his mind set is going to be that he is going to get some concessions no matter what. And the Ukrainian's forging their own destiny in terms of NATO and EU and being rearmed after this by Western Powers is going to be unacceptable to him.
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