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Old 03-15-2022, 03:06 AM   #103
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache View Post
I’m going to offer some insight into my view of this which is based on science and math here

29.7 feet from the face off dot to the centre of the net on the goal line
The crease has a 6 foot radius

Say the shot at the point of MacKinnon’s release is 35 feet from the net and Vladar is 6 feet out. So the shot travels about 29 feet

Say the shot is 70 mph. 1 mph is 1.467 feet per second, so that is 102.7 fps. The shot arrives in .28 seconds

Now you know that a goalie at the edge of the crease doesn’t cover 100% of the net.

It has been documented that a typical hand eye lag is about 20 milliseconds, or .2 seconds. So given that, the goalie is constrained by how far they can adjust their position in 8 milliseconds

Long story short, I can not give credence to the feeling based statement ‘goalie should make a save from that far out’

It’s awesome when goalies make saves, but they rely on
- shot origin location and velocity, time the puck takes to get to them
- shot placement

And goalies are constrained by
- their initial position (they can influence this, but physically can’t cover 100% of the net, based on the differences between the shape of the net and the size and shape of the goaltender)
- time available to respond (time the shot takes to get from the stick to them, considering the eye to brain to physical response lag)
- how they then respond

Physics matter. Science matters

Feelings matter, but in a different way. They have nothing to do with whether shots become goals

A lot of whether a shot actually goes in is based on chance. Shot placement is in my view pretty much the most critical variable.

A goalie in decent position covers, I don’t know, say 80 percent of the net?

Save percentages for “low danger” shots aren’t 1.000 for a reason

Long story short, giving top skilled players time and space to assess the goalie position, and aim their shot, is one of the absolute worst things a team can do

And once the shooter hits the dot, a goalie is at their mercy. Goal or not pretty much matters almost exclusively on the shot placement as compared to their initial positioning

That’s why Sutter’s desire for a checking team matters

Sorry, friend. It’s just science, man
lol this guy

speaking of Sutter he thinks it's a bad goal...I take his word over yours.
Goalies make that save all the time

You have dedicated your life to defending backup goalies and Sam Bennett...looking at the Markstrom thread though I don't think your goalie takes don't often age well.
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