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Old 03-11-2022, 11:20 PM   #3759
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Pointman, there's no "western propaganda" involved here. The information that is gaining traction is what has gotten traction on places like Reddit and Twitter. That of course does not mean that it's accurate, and much of it probably isn't, but it's a matter of what grabs peoples' attention.

So calling it "propaganda" is inaccurate - there is no person or group of people with an agenda pushing a particular narrative about this conflict, besides "Putin = bad dictator, invasion of Ukraine = bad war on false pretences", and that's not so much an agenda as the immediate, face-value reaction to everything that's happened that most people around the world seem to have. They don't need to be led by the nose to any conclusions in that regard.
You are right, propaganda is probably a wrong word. It seems to imply that there's some kind of mastermind strategist that is controlling the narrative. That was not what I meant. I meant that some things are being posted, liked and shared because they are what people want to read, even if that is not necessarily true. Since everyone hates Putin, and deservingly so, it goes like "Hey, look! This idiot wanted to conquer Ukraine in two days! Ha ha, what a clown!". This sentiment goes around even though its base does not really have much substance. It seems to hinge on some sentionalized western experts predictions, a leaked pre-written Russian article that does not actually say about winning in two days, but was merely leaked on the second day, and some arbitrary conclusions drawn from certain military moves, while other moves that don't fit the narrative are being ignored.

Just to put things in perspective, Crimea annexation had no resistance and yet it took about two weeks (27.02 invasion - 11.03 last mentione of Russian troops action that I see)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time...ian_Federation

Suggesting that Putin expected to take whole Ukraine in two days while he took Crimea in two weeks is way off. That being said, as we are into a third week, it's probably irrelevant what was Putin's plan at the first place.

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