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Old 03-09-2022, 03:17 PM   #3502
curves2000
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Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
Guy honestly what do you want the West to do?

The madman has nukes.

This is going to sound crass, but isn’t it better for the country of Ukraine to fall than for WWIII break out and human annihilation?

The west is supporting as much as they can without escalating the situation to a global conflict in which billions will die.

Listen, I understand the Nuke thing and WW3. I really do. But instead of non stop press conferences and bragging about defending every inch of NATO, an attack on one is an attack on all etc. Act or quite pretending your acting.

With the Polish fighter jet transfer, the press conference from a few minutes ago went something like this.

We continue to support Ukraine with arms that they and we feel is needed to defend. If other NATO countries (Poland) want to loan their jets, that is up to them. Our analysts conclude that the US loaning jet's, via Poland is risky.

So we have Poland concerned with their security, rightfully so. They want the backing of NATO and the US, rightfully so. The US, fearful of escalating is ok with Poland lending jet's, but feels it's too risky for them to loan the Mig's directly, via the 3rd party.

So we statements of support and giving Ukraine what they want but not really and lot's of talk NATO members being there for each other 100%, but not really. UN talking about human rights and war crimes, but not really.

We have a lot of powerful elite's talking power and unity, but not really. We have Putin who doesn't really mess around and concludes action is action and is going to do what he want's to achieve his goal and it won't stop in Ukraine.

I just fear that he won't be stopped and than everybody looking back and wondering what happened at the start. Tactical and strategic error. I know I am in the minority but seeing this thing play out is mind boggling to me.

Can these countries actually continue to discuss democracy, human rights, war crimes and all this other non sense going forward? Or is it all talk? Maybe the leaders of these other regimes are accurate and we are all just fed BS when it doesn't matter.

I don't know anymore. Seems like crazy to me all around.
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