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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
If Russia gets those demands, all it does it prove that Russian aggression wins in the end if they are willing to take enough bodies home. In no way can this end with Russia being rewarded.
Obviously, I am not one of the millions suffering in Ukraine though and I can't imagine being in their situation. They have been very brave and I couldn't fault them for taking the deal I guess.
When this is all over and NATO is off the table, they should still make sure that Ukraine is armed to the teeth. Of course, the risk there is that Russia manages to eventually overthrow their government and disarms them anyway.
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I disagree on this.
The West can finally stick it to Russia economically. That's realistically their only weapon here. It's also the best way that the West has to pressure Russia's government into resigning.
All Russia is "gaining" from this is an acknowledgment from Ukraine of what they'd already imposed prior to the conflict. They're essentially trying to humiliate Ukraine. They are literally gaining nothing physical. There is no change in what was going on before the war, other than Ukraine ending the conflict in the East, which they had already lost.
Russia, assuming the sanctions have teeth, is, however, losing a lot economically.