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Old 03-06-2022, 11:07 PM   #3155
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss View Post
For those who cast some blame to nato for Russias action, I was reading up on the 2004 Ukraine election (which was before most nato talk) and involved the pro Russia candidate winning in the initial election that as thrown out due to serious issues and then losing to the pro west candidate in the re-do.

The pro west candidate was also poisoned during the campaign. Just interesting to read and consider why these countries have wanted to join NATO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U...on?wprov=sfti1

The preferred western candidate who won was also not great... So don't consider him a hero or anything.
There's no wonder why Ukraine and other Russian neighbors want to join NATO. The real question is why NATO wants to accept them. If a country of Ukraine economy, army and demographics would not be located on Russian border, would NATO accept it? What value do Baltic states add to NATO except for being right next to St.Petersburg? Does Turkey really brings any good to NATO except for its position to threat Russia from the south, while the other countries only threat from the west?
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