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Originally posted by Sammie@Dec 20 2004, 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Dec 20 2004, 01:11 AM
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@Dec 20 2004, 12:04 AM
What I find amusing is that a small group of gays are insisting on having the right to take part in an institute where they will be asked to surrender all their rights in order to make that institute work.
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You mean just like straight people have to give up their rights to make it work?
I'm not sure I follow.
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I really don't think there's anything to explain. Both the husband and wife have to sacrifice everything to make their marriage work when the two of them become one. They have to become even more selfless when children arrive in the home. There's a great responsibility to being a family unit where its members often give everything they have and get far less in return.
Marriages fail when people aren't prepared to submit to each other selflessly. The reason why so many marriages fail today is because people are far more selfish and for more concerned about insisting on demanding their rights than they were thirty years ago, before our glorious charter of rights.
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Wow...that's quite a cynical view of marriage you have going on there. Sure, sacrifices have to be made, but not EVERYTHING. If you're in a relationship where you'll have to sacrifice everything just to be with them the rest of your lives (in theory), I don't think that's a very good person to be marrying, personally. There IS sacrificing and great responsibility that comes with marriage, yes. That has to be balanced with the benefits you're getting, however, to make it worth doing, IMO. By your views, shouldn't gays be better suited for marriage, since they are less likely to have children (yes adoption is an option, but I'm assuming it'll be less common for gays to adopt than for straights to make their own and/or adopt) and they will, by your reasoning, not have to give up as much?[/b][/quote]
Cynical view of marriage? I would prefer to think I'm being realistic. Ask yourself this question, "How far am I prepared to go to make this relationship work?" Certainly there are benefits to being married or it wouldn't be worth making a commitment in the first place. The whole point of getting married is to make a commitment to forming a family unit for the protection of the children that may arrive. If you don't want children, why bother getting married?