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Old 02-23-2022, 11:43 PM   #9174
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I have to be honest here, I never liked the Toffoli trade. If the 1st was a 2nd, then I’d be okay with it, but a 1st for Toffoli is too much. He’s an inconsistent scorer who will score in 5 straight games, then go quiet for the next 7 with maybe an assist. He’s 29, going on 30 in April, and he’s just another one of those players going on the wrong side of 30 that Treliving loves to sign and/or trade for (Brouwer, Neal, Lucic, Coleman). I have absolutely no idea why most people on here were obsessed with him and wanted to trade for him by any means necessary. I don’t care that he’s signed for another 2 years, but for that 1st round pick we should be targeting someone like Forsberg, Laine, Giroux, Hertl, Chychrun, Miller, etc. Those players are actual game changers that put us over the top, Toffoli isn’t that.

Treliving owed it to this core, with the way Johnny, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Markstrom, and our d-core are playing and with the way Sutter is coaching to go all in, and he failed as we no longer have enough cap space to target any of those players, unless if someone like Monahan or Lucic would waive to be traded but I don’t see that happening with the way we’re playing as I’m sure they’d rather stay on a playoff contending team. Trading for Toffoli isn’t going “all in”, it’s just a decent, overpriced piece but it doesn’t allow us to compete with Colorado, Vegas, etc. I feel like that package plus a little more would have been enough for Forsberg and I’d much rather have Forsberg than Toffoli with him being younger at 27 and a more prolific scorer. However, my target would have been Laine IF he was available. My god he would have made our top 6 absolutely deadly and he’d be an RFA after this season and a piece of our core going forwards. But instead, we have big bad Toffoli who definitely isn’t going to put us over the top if we end up playing a team like Colorado in the playoffs, and I wouldn’t be surprised if MacKinnon just slaps us around again like last time. I wouldn’t even be surprised if we’re out first round, because we just cant seem to get out of the first round. However, the Sutter effect is different and gives me some hope with his system, which is why I was hoping Treliving would go “all in” and not waste a 1st on an inconsistent scorer. I hope I'm wrong, but Toffoli just doesn't do it for me.
Toffoli was on a 44 goal pace last season FFS

Get Coleman out of those bad examples for one thing...he is a MAJOR part of this first place team. Toffoli is signed for two more seasons after this one on a great contract you are acting like it's a rental like other players you are mentioning. There are also no trade lists you are totally ignoring.

Also, there is more to hockey than scoring. Toffoli contributes far more to winning than a guy like PL. Have any of your amazing players won anything?

Waste a first lol, what a ridiculous take
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