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Old 02-23-2022, 08:48 AM   #540
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Again, non-argument and irrelevant. Russia is not attacking NATO, it's attacking Ukraine, for reasons that according to Putins recent statements have basically nothing to do with NATO.

You seem to have lost sight of what's actually happening and why. Which is somewhat understandable because Putin has been moving the goalposts of what Ukraine "should stop doing" so many times that it's hard to keep track.
Putin's speech wasn't the easiest to keep track of, but he surely did say that NATO is a big part of the reason for invasion. He specifically mentioned:

1. Broken promise to not accept eastern countries (which is true)
2. Missiles that can reach Moscow in 5 minutes if located in eastern Ukraine (no idea if true)
3. Ochakovo naval base renovated by NATO (somewhat true, might be embellished)
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