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Originally Posted by FurnaceFace
Pointman (or others with in depth knowledge), do you think the intent or endgame here to gain some land? Is there anything strategic in say the Sea of Azov worth fighting over to keep Donetsk et al? If Ukraine said “you want it? Fine. Russia you can have it and in return you back off and agree to go no further.” Even if a Ukraine agreed to remain neutral I don’t see how any of this really helps Russia a lot. Russia are still stuck in the Black see with no true open ocean access. I guess now it might be easier to sneak subs through the Bosporus but I would imagine they were already able to do that.
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I think they tried this with Czechoslovakia one time. 
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