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Old 02-19-2022, 08:06 AM   #297
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Except, Ukraine has desired to be a part of the west and NATO for many years and has not been taken over by a communist despot, aka Cuba and N Korea. They have a legally elected government that has a mandate given by the people for the people. Russia continues to believe that they are the rightful owners to Ukraine.
If Ukraine wants to be a part of the West, fair enough. Join EU. Russia would have no problem with that. Joining a military alliance though? The one that has promised not to expand to our borders? The one that has missiles targeted at us? It does make us nervous and it's legit reason. Cuba was also a sovereign country and was legally entitled to host USSR missiles. Yet Kennedy freaked out. And had every right to do so. He also tried to invade Cuba, but failed.


Under Trump, USA had terminated the agreement with Russia about not deploying ground missiles targeting each other. Why? It's not about Russians trying to "own" Ukraine. It's about being, well, uncomfortable about US missiles potentially right at our borders and wanting to show a strong and affirmative response. You have to understand Russia's reasoning here. You don't have to agree with it.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-treaty-russia

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