[Indomitable]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Sorry, I thought you only had one piece of information, and that is easily debunked.
If it's so easily debunked, then do it. Don't just say it is. Literal lazy.
So I don't know how to do what you did. I am just responding in between the verbatim that you wrote.


He played when he was cleared to play. You know perfectly well that skating, even practising in a regular jersey, does not mean you are immediately fit to play after a layoff of several months. Except when it's Tampa, and then suddenly it becomes the Bavarian Illuminati taking over the world.

[If he played when he was cleared to play then he would have. I don't know about you, but when the media (hey, I agree they suck balls) reports that a player is in a non contact jersey that usually means they are closer to return than when Tampa media went whoop! Delete that he's in a non contact jersey (which they did and you can look that up yourself because it did happen)]



So you're still banging on about one case.

[One case? What are you talking about one case? My original question was "When has the salary cap been an adverse condition (ADVERSE BEING THE CRUX OF THE QUESTION) for a team to go for the Stanley Cup (sic)]

What's impossible about that? He returned to play almost exactly at the time his doctors predicted he would be ready.

[He literally returned at the time that would be most advantageous to his team. Literally. Despite previous reports that he was ready to do so prior to. Literal reports. In the suspect media. Those reports were reported and subsequently deleted from media. It has been documented.]


Me? I live in Canada. I don't consider myself Canadian, because I am perfectly well aware that my country hates me and has no use for me. I just haven't got the means to go anywhere else.

[I don't care where you live. I literally do not. I don't care who you are, where you are and where you come from. You were the a$$hat that brought up nationality. None of that means anything to me. You were the one to bring up country. Am I at fault for defending mine? Maybe. Maybe I am. That doesn't mean Sh*t to me. Sorry you are where you don't like to live. I honestly, truthfully hope you will get where you want and need to be. I wish with all that I am that you are happy and have the means to be happy. If you aren't or can't, I don't have much but let me know and I would honestly try to help you.]


Canadians invented cheating in hockey – probably the same day they invented the game itself.

[Of course they did. Give me a break. Why do you think rules were invented in the first place? Rules were invented to try and curb cheating in the game.]

What self-righteous twaddle. Are you familiar with the story of how the NHL got started? It was an exercise in cheating. The entire reason why the NHL was founded was to freeze out one of the owners and steal his players without compensation. (It was originally supposed to operate for only one year while the con was being played, but the old league was so bogged down with lawsuits that they decided to keep the new league going and ditch the old one.)

[Twaddle? Give me a break, I haven't spoken any twaddle at all. What you're speaking of is literal twaddle as I didn't go anywhere near the creation of the game nor the crap that players had to go through in the early stages prior to the creation of the NHLPA]

There are scores of cases where Canadians have cheated the NHL system. It's been going on for more than a century. But the particular kind of cheating you're all worked up about does not exist. If the salary cap was not an obstacle for teams trying to win the Stanley Cup, the Leafs, Habs, and Rangers would find a way to ice $150-million payrolls – because those three teams could do that every year and still make a profit.

[The cheating your're speaking of revolves around the cheating of the NHL vs the players and that wasn't cleared up until the early Pulford/Eagleson years which turned out to be it's own bullcrap era because those folks were in it for themselves. The difference being that they were exposed for their transgressions and we have yet to see the ditry side of what is truly going on) I say this out of brackets because I assume you are smart enough to know that there is literally no and I mean NO altruism happening in today's game nor today's world.

The fact that teams take full advantage of the LTIR clause (and that the clause was poorly written in the first place) does not equate to circumventing the cap. They follow the rules as written. You just don't like it and think it's an evil Yankee conspiracy to steal ‘our’ Stanley Cup, and probably ‘our’ Great Lakes as well. It isn't. Deal with it.

[The fact that today's teams take advantage of the salary cap loopholes may be a reality yes. Why should we have to put up with it though? It is literally an EVIL YANKEE CONSPIRACY. Who is the person running the game? Is it a Canadian? Is it someone who has the roots of the game or the roots of the fan base in mind? Can you realistically say yes to either of those questions? I mean, who the ##### are you. Who are you really? You seem to support the wrong side of the equation when it comes to hockey. Maybe you need a reality check on your side. Get a real life and then maybe check on my own.] Peace and good luck to you and yours.