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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I posted this list some time ago, of worst trades
1. Gilmour
2. Savard
3. Mullen (they also traded Sarge for a 2nd which wasn't great either)
4. Giguere
5. Regehr to Buffalo
6. Bouwmeester (didn't need to happen as he had a 1 year left)
7. Stralman/Lydman (putting these together as they are very similar in that a quality dman was traded for next to nothing, seemed like they didn't align to Sutter's approach to D but they both went on to be long time quality NHLers)
8. Phaneuf (this was a bad deal because they should have gone for quality not quantity)
9. Hrdina for Kyte
I would add to that:
- Giving up MSL for nothing
- James Neal UFA
- Hamonic deal is probably top 15
- Though in isolation I don't think you can be too hard on not picking good players in the mid 20s, but the cumulative impact of the Chucko, Pelech, Irving, Nemisz, Erixon stretch from 2004 to 2009 (with Backlund sandwiched in there) did the franchise some serious long-term harm and deserves mention.
I'm probably missing some stuff. Right now I would put the entire "Saga of Sam" from the pick, to the development, to the trade somewhere in the top 20.
Special Bonus: The Flames signing Teemu Selanne to an offer sheet matched by the Jets. This wasn't a blunder at all, in fact it was a brilliant move. It falls more under the "what if" category for if Winnipeg hadn't matched the Flames fortunes surely change.
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Thanks for posting a list that allows everyone else to criticize. Although I have strongly resisted this in the past, I think you have to put the Hull trade on this as a bad trade. Let's be honest about the return.
Wamsley was great guy, but he was a backup goalie. No role in the Cup run.
Ramage was quite possibly the best bottom pairing D in the league upon joining the Flames. But that's what he was for us, bottom pair. He was incredible depth when Suter went down and he was very important. And then he left the club, only playing one full season in Calgary.
Brett Hull went on to score 741 goals in the NHL and another eye popping 103 playoff goals. Trading Brett Hull should have set the club up for years instead of temporary depth.
Would I change anything? Well no, but it was not a good return.
I'd also put Neal and Hamonic higher on my list. Yes Jaybo was traded too soon and the return was really weak but IMO less onesided than the Hamonic deal.
The Jokinen trade that got us Kotalik was worse than the trade that sent him and Regehr to Buffalo IMO.
I hear you on the run of bad first round picks under Sutter but really we haven't seen this club do anything with mid to high first rounders in forever. Backlund was an exception. And Feaster actually turned Erixon into something.
We should do a list of good trades too sometime. There have been lots.