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Originally Posted by Envitro
Nice angry face at the end, it definitely helps anchor the argument.
What I own and like should have zero bearing in a logical discussion.
I'm just saying that at the end of the day, an inanimate object doesn't load itself with other inanimate objects (i.e. ammunition), doesn't have legs so it can't walk around and transport itself from place to place, and doesn't fire at humans or random victims all on its own.
The gun is effectively irrelevant when trying to understand why crime happens. Criminals don't commit crime because guns exist. It's an instrument of crime in the hands of a criminal, no different than a kitchen knife, bat, tire iron, or a rock.
Sure, it becomes deadly if misused or in the hands of a criminal rather than a lawful citizen.
But the same can be said about a pickup truck, a rental van, a semi-truck, or an airliner.
I'm just saying let's look at the underlying causes of violence and crime not just blame pieces of harmless metal and plastic. They only become harmful when in the hands of humans.
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That's such a cop out argument. How many drive by shootings, or 4 year olds getting hit by random bullets does the UK have compared to the US? You will find very very few, because they have strict gun laws. If you think that having similar gun laws in the US wouldn't drastically reduce violent deaths in the US, then it's not even worth having a conversation, because you aren't living within the realm of reality. You think if the Vegas shooter only had access to knives the same number of people would be dead, because he'd throw them off the roof? Guns enable and amplify the level of violence attainable. Ya, sure, a gun on it's own does nothing. But that argument is irrelevant.