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Old 01-06-2022, 01:25 PM   #710
Enoch Root
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame View Post
Do you know how heavily militarized that area is, particularly with the Navy, and with the scale of operations from San Clemente Island? It's a freaking sonar base, a major training facility for Navy SEALs, as well as facilities for the USAF and the USCG - among other things.

You're crazy if you think there's any way China or Russia, given the sophistication of their own fleets - can hide out undetected in the channel between Catalina/U.S. coastline. And if they can and not be picked up on radar - the the U.S. is truly in trouble.

Of course, to make a suggestion that China or Russia can penetrate that area would imply that you have more information on the subject, and I invite you to explain how a Yasen-class or Jin-class submarine (or lesser models) could operate in the area undetected.
Do you understand what espionage is?

Two important fundamentals when doing the spying thing:

1) you do it where the people you are spying on actually are, and
2) you do it covertly

If Russia or China wanted to spy on the US, they would likely try to develop some kind of drone that could slip around undetected. I mean, that's literally what spying on the US war machine would entail, no?

Look, I'm not saying it's anything in particular. I'm saying the author, and you, have been quick to dismiss terrestrial explanations, and I am suggesting those dismissals are probably premature.
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